One was sentenced to die at 19. The other became a leader in the Aryan Brotherhood. One black. One white. Once enemies. Now best friends. Brothers in Christ. If His love can bridge that divide, what divide anywhere in the world is beyond His reach?
Join Greg and Stephanie Schlueter for an unforgettable conversation with John C. (“Irish Johnny”) Harvey III and George Clayton, two men whose lives bear witness to Jesus Christ's extraordinary mercy.
With disarming honesty, humor, and hard-earned wisdom, they recount lives consumed by crime, addiction, violence, and decades behind bars. They confront the devastation they caused, the lies they believed, and the moments when grace broke through: a mother’s faithful prayers, a priest bringing Confession and Communion into solitary confinement, an unexpected friendship, and a love so real that one man would offer to surrender his parole for the other’s salvation.
Through surrender, the sacraments, and a brotherhood neither could have imagined, they discovered freedom long before the prison gates opened.
From convict to convicted in Christ.
For anyone praying for a loved one who seems beyond reach, or quietly carrying chains of guilt, resentment, addiction, or despair—this conversation offers a powerful reason to hope. Find their ministry at MadeToBeFreeMinistries.com.








